Daf Yud Zayin Amud Alef
Rabbi Yosef: it is an argument amongst תנאים (whether the טבל of מעשר עני
is prohibited דאורייתא
Beriata: Rabbi Eliezer says that you don’t have to designate מעשר עני of דמאי (even
by name), but the Chachamim say that one needs to designate מעשר עני of דמאי by
name, but does not need to physically separate it from the rest of the produce.
Suggestion: The Chachamim
hold that a definite obligation to separate מעשר עני makes
the produce prohibited to eat as טבל while Rabbi Eliezer holds that a definite
obligation to separate מעשר עני doesn’t make the produce prohibited to eat as טבל.
Rejection (Abaye): If
this is true, they should argue over whether or not someone can eat definite טבל before
separating מעשר עני, rather, since they argue in a case of דמאי means
shows that everyone holds that a definite מעשר עני
requirement makes the produce טבל
Rabbi Eliezer holds that we are not suspicious of uneducated people
concerning מעשר עני of דמאי since מעשר עני is permitted to anyone and an uneducated person separates and
eats it himself. The Chachamim are concerned since it’s hard for an educated
person to separate מעשר עני and therefore he does not separate it.
Mishna: How much טבל must
one eat…?
Rav Bivi: The argument
between the Chachamim and Rabbi Eliezer is about a person who eats a wheat
kernel of טבל, but
for flour that is טבל, they
agree that he is not liable for eating less than a כזית
Rabbi Yirmiyah says that
they do argue about the flour
Mishna: Rabbi Shimon said do you not agree that
someone is liable for eating an ant of any size? The Chachamim answered it is
different because it is in the form of its creation. Rabbi Shimon replied that
a wheat kernel is also in the form of its creation. Inference: for a wheat
kernel he is held accountable but for eating a small amount of flour, he is
not.
Rabbi Shimon is
responding to the Chachamim according to their own opinion: I hold that even
the טבל of
flour, someone is held accountable for any amount. At least admit that eating a
kernel in its form of creation makes the person liable. The Chachamim say that
an ant is significant because it is a living creature but a kernel is not
significant.
Beriata (support Rabbi
Yirmiyah): the smallest amount of a prohibited food is significant and warrants
lashes. The כזית only
applies to קרבנות
Mishna: The following are punished by lashes:
someone who eats בכורים before the owner recites, or one who eats קדשי קדשים outside
of the curtains, or who eats קדשים קלים and מעשר שני outside of walls of ירושלים.
Someone who breaks the bone of a קרבן פסח that is טהור, but
someone who leaves meat overnight of a טהור קרבן פסח, or
breaks the bone of a קרבן פסח that is טמא does
not receive 40 lashes. Rabbi Yehuda: someone who takes a mother bird who is
sitting on her eggs/chicks is lashed and has no מצוה to send
it away. The Chachamim say that he sends her away and does not get lashes. This
is a rule: someone is not lashed for any prohibition that has a positive
commandment.
Gemara: Rabbah bar bar
Chanah says these are the words of Rabbi Akiva but the Chachamim say that
putting the בכורים down is important but the recital is not essential (cannot eat
before putting them down but can before reciting)
Let the words of the
Mishna be according to Rabbi Shimon.
This is what he is
telling us, that Rabbi Akiva has the same opinion as Rabbi Shimon.
Which statement of Rabbi
Shimon shows that he has the same opinion?
Beriata: "ותרומת ידך" refers
to בכורים. Rabbi Shimon asks what this teaches. Answer: it forbids the
eating of בכורים outside of the wall. Rejection: we learn this from a קל וחומר from מעשר שני (מעשר שני is lenient but someone who eats outside of the wall is lashed, בכורים, which is strict, all the more so). Answer: it obligates lashes
for eating from the בכורים before the reciting. "ונדבתיך" refers to the תודה and שלמים. Rabbi Shimon says this does not forbid from eating them
outside of the wall. A קל וחומר from מעשר שני teaches this. Rather, it obligates lashes for eating תודה or שלמים before the throwing of the blood. "ובכרת" refers to the בכור. Rabbi
Shimon says that this does not forbid eating them outside of the wall because a
קל וחומר from מעשר שני teaches this. It cannot forbid eating before throwing the blood
because a קל וחומר from קרבן תודה and שלמים teaches this. Rather, this obligates lashes for a non-kohen
eating בכור, even
after throwing the blood. "בקרך
וצאנך" refers
to קרבן חטאת and אשם. Rabbi
Shimon says this cannot forbid from eating outside the wall, before throwing
the blood, or a non-kohen who eats it. A קל וחומר from מעשר שני (or תודה and שלמים or בכור)
teaches this. Rather, it obligates lashes for eating חטאת or אשם outside
the curtains, even after the throwing of the blood. "נדריך" refers to קרבן עולה. Rabbi
Shimon says this cannot forbid eating outside the wall, or before throwing the
blood, or outside the curtains, or for a non-kohen who eats it. A קל וחומר from מעשר שני teaches this.
In our Gemara, there are
two discussions about what types of prohibitions are punishable by מלקות. The only definite grouping seems to be related to people who
use something that is set aside for holy use. What other categories ofעבירות are punishable by מלקות?
According to our Gemara, it seems that all la'avim are punishable by malkot, except for the ones that have a mitzvat aseh attached to it, to fiz the transgression. For example, the chachamim say that a man who takes the mother bird when she is sitting on her eggs or chicks sends her away and does not get lashes.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Nina- it seems that all laavim are punishable by lashes except for a few exceptions. Just to give another specific example though of something punishable by lashes would be if someone intentionally ate neveila. Another example would be edim zomemin who for some reason cannot be given the type of punishment that "kaasher zamam," then they recieve lashes instead.
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